The rearpanel configuration switches determine the initial conditions powerup of the 8824. Finally we have a colour chart outline for those who are more visually inclined. I have some nice mic pres at home avalongrace and i dont intend these pres to be as good as those. But, again, when connected to adat io these carry 8 channels of digital audio. Control24 patchbay setup example courtesy of control24 user digidesign analog aesebu spdif 88824 io 12 34 56 78 12 34 56 78 1 footnotes. Our studio homelab rack, rails, patch panel, cables and parts setup duration. Blog check out stories about tours by presonus artists, love letters and videos from customers, and more technical articles. Like it sounds, this fiber optic technology can stream up to 8 channels of stable 44. Matrix patch baydistribution for stereo spdif and 8channel adat signals. This item comes only as seen in photos and does not include any other accessories.
This is the same patch bay, only with notated routing. Adat 1 telling you the rme sees one 8channel adat light pipe connection from the dm the host led might be red that means a bad connection between the linux machine and the rme. The patch lt light version offers a 32 point 16input16output matrix with four standard. Lynx ls adat 16channel lightpipe expansion card lsadat. To get back to the original question, the type of digital transmission has no effect on the quality of the sound as long as no bits are dropped. Fastacting input led meters are located on the front panel for quick and. It has 24 toslink optical ports mounted across the rear panel, each protected from. Behringer ada8000 into digi 002003 therecordingrevolution. In the real world, however, there are a tangle of issues for installing almost anything. Hosa technology pbp362 modular lightpipe patch bay. Audio, video and data patching solutions designed to seamlessly integrate into any pro audio, broadcast, or live sound application. Mounted next to the primary card, the lsadat is contro.
After my session, i had to clear my patch bay for his sessions. With apache, youll set up your optical digital audio cabling connections once. Proper wiring of your patch bay is a vital part of the home recording studio set up. Answers ask and answer questions with presonus users just like you videos seeing is believingand in many cases, understanding. The key is to be able to trace the signal out and in, out and in, through the jacks and your gear. So your devices will lock together, but your id22 is probably locking to your asp800. The adat lightpipe, officially the adat optical interface, is a standard for the transfer of digital audio between equipment. With the patch bay left as it is no patch cord inserted the signal will flow from some output top jack to some input bottom jack in its normal fashion. You can then use it as a router to patch your sources. We are starting to get lots of questions about adat light pipe compatible equipment as it relates to bit depth.
Feb 02, 2018 a halfnormal patchbay configuration is commonly used with analog line level signals. Im using a rme hammerfall dsp card with the multiface io box. More so if youve got a setup where effects are running both into the front of the amp and through the effects loop, a. Studio e knoll 320, behind the stage epstairs is a small about 15x10. If i can generalize pretty heavily here and i will, you can budget 20% of your overall studio value to the patchbays and necessary cabling, including patch cables to run this stuff around from point to point. Patchbays while not necessarily the heart of your studio, a good patchbay can certainly be the blood vessels, and you most definitely dont want them getting clogged. Below are the minimum computersystem requirements for your firestudio lightpipe. Below is an example of a console set up for a modest or home recording studio.
Since the adat is a 20bit recorder the question arises as to what happens to the extra bits of a 24bit word when it is used with adat products. Tape returns are not shown on the simplified diagrams in the rest of this page. It was originally developed by alesis but has since become widely accepted, with many third party hardware manufacturers including. I know my live recordings will not be as good as my other recordings because of the varrious rooms and track bleed. As you know, the vs units only have 8 outs and 8 ins.
Adat optical switcher patchbay pro tools tdm systems mac. Behringer ada8000 ultragain pro8 digital adat preamp. It is implemented here on the focusrite red 8pre in the latter configuration, labelled. To patchbay or not to patchbay jan 4, 2007 what is a patchbay. A patchbay keeps your setup organized and helps you save a huge amount of time. I could go adat light pipe right in to the digidesign hardware. In my two previous studio installation articles sos september and. Jan 14, 2008 ive been through two different sets of adat cables now and im getting noise glitches from each. If you can wrap your head around 12 points, you can deal with as many as you want. Its a great time to upgrade your home music studio gear with the largest selection at. This allows the audio or video signal to passthrough the patchbay without using a patch cable. They can be used, along with additional ad and da converters, to increase the number of analogue inputs and outputs that can be routed into and out of software, and allow the user to upgrade their setup adding higher quality preamps, for example at any time after.
Adat router 64channel adat to madi converter and digital patch bay. Oct 22, 20 a video tutorial on audio patch bays in the project and home recording studio. Adat optical switcher patchbay avid pro audio community. Each patch point stays independent and isolated from other channels. The firestudio lightpipe allows you to convert up to 32 channels of adat optical light pipe inputoutput to firewire providing a multichannel computer interface for digital mixers, adda converters. Lynx ls adat 16 channel lightpipe expansion card reverb. No normals straight thru is when the toprow of patch points jacks is not connected to the bottomrow patch points. A patchbay is a group of connectors usually mounted in a rack from one to two rack heights. Some patchbays are specially created for routing digital electrical signals, optical signals, and midi signals. Control24 patchbay setup example courtesy of control24 user.
Regardless of how you choose to add more inputs, dont just think of them as inputs think of them as a patchbay you never have to repatch. If it did, i would have invested in it when it came out. This video explains the setup of the patch bay and patch snakes for the monitoring system for musicians on sunday mornings. Were going to walk through a simple setup only using an imaginary 12 point patchbay. This guide will get you up to speed on all the in and outs of audio cabling to help you choose the correct cables for your purpose.
Audio interface channel expansion via adat lightpipe 1 connecting 2 audio interfaces via adat lightpipe in this example, the fireface ucx is the master unit and the fireface 400 is the slave. Using handydandy patch cables or the cableless magic that is normaling, you pipe the gazuotas of one device into the gazintas of another device to get your desired signal path in a matter of seconds. Each input and output provides an easytosee front panel activity indicator. Frontier frontier design apache optical digital adat reverb. Here we have an diagram of a typical patch bay set up. With computer interfaces, digital consoles and, of course, adats incorporating the adat optical standard, the need for a patch system should seem obvious. Both 18i8 and 18i20 have adat optical input jacks for eight more inputs at 44. Directly connect the firestudio lightpipe to a digital mixer via adat lightpipe to easily.
Well, the other inputs are typically an adat optical interface, which. Toslink is the connector both use as well as the connectors on the above linked switcher it works with adat. Furthermore, it can carry out format conversion between the adat lightpipe format and spdif. This allows the audio or video signal to passthrough the patchbay without using. All connections are done at the rear of the patch bay. Mounted next to the primary card, the lsadat is controlled from the lynx mixing application th. Unfortunately the vs700 io or the vs700 console does not support rbus or adat light pipe.
Adat might be blinking green that might or might not be a problem. With the introduction of the pbp362 patch bay, hosa technology has seen the light at the end of the cable, so to speak. Just for a little extra needless info, spdif optical uses toslink, spdif over copper wire uses an rca connector. On the patchbay, patch the submaster bus outputs used to the inputs for. The digidesign 003r is the slave and that is a choice in the pro tools software. Im looking for a nice 8 mic pre unit with adat out for recording live gigs. Windows xp, vista, windows 7 32 and 64bit intel pentium 4 1. Rme adi8 ds mk iii ad da conversion time marches on, and gets more accurate. The lsadat provides 16 channels of adat lightpipe io to the aes16, lynxtwo and lynx l22 pci cards and the aes16e pci express card. Product repairs click here to arrange repairs and check repair status for your. Im torn between the micro fourup patch bay and one like jnepo1 has above. Buy best digital patchbays online pro audio solutions.
A video tutorial on audio patch bays in the project and home recording studio. Maybe the key differentiation feature for is the digital patch bay. Using spdif and adat inputs ask joe home studio corner. At pro audio solutions we offer great prices, service, and quick shipping. Jun 01, 2002 hosa technology pbp362 modular lightpipe patch bay. A patchbay is great for tidying your outputs and inputs and bringing them right to the front, where you can easily reach them. In this setup you will also need a suitable computer wintel pc or apple macintosh and a suitable interface card. Rme adi8 ds mk iii ad da conversion time marches on, and. If you look at large recording consoles, they all have a lot of patch bays. I have behringer eurorack ub1204 connected to a maudio audiophile 2496. So spdif, aesebu, adat lightpipe are all equivalent for a 24bit 48khz stereo pair provided both ends can handle the wordlengths. Jun 19, 2008 the presonus firestudio lightpipe is a 24bit96k adat light pipe to firewire computer recording system for both pc and macintosh computer systems. All my instruments were set up, they were patched into inputs, and.
It was originally developed by alesis but has since become widely accepted, with many third party hardware manufacturers including lightpipe interfaces on their equipment. I had a digipatch optical and spdif patcher between the two that i. I was mentioning the patch bay because it really helps with my audient asp 880 and rme ucx interface combo. The ls adat provides 16 channels of adat light pipe io to the aes16, lynxtwo and lynx l22 pci cards and the aes16e pci express card. Back in my old studio, my partner was still recording to 3 adat tape machines synced via smpte. If you have a variety of digital audio boxes in your studio and they need to talk to each. Framecontrol panel to build a 16x16 stereo pairsmatrix patch baydistribution, includes mac and pc control software. I would like to add a protools mix3 system to the existing setup. You dont need to connect the clock when using adat light pipe. How to add more inputs to your audio interface sweetwater.
Rme adi8 ds mk iii ad da conversion time marches on. It is ideal for making rearpanel microphone mixer inputs easier to reach. This listing is for a frontier design apache optical digital adat lightpipe patch bay. A patchbay can make your studio much quicker to use, but can also be a nightmare to set up, so heres advice on which to choose and how to connect it up for the best results.
If you are in an abusive environment, buy cables that are repairable. Each patch point on the toprow is connected to the patch point under it on the bottomrow. Combinations of the m16 da and m32 da converters allow for setups with. Adat inputs are typically used for adding more input channels via additional microphone preamps and audio interfaces. I have a synth korg kronos whose digital output is adat optical interface, aka lightpipe. Connect the fireface ucx to the pc via usb or firewire connect the fireface 400 via firewire asio control panels the asio panels for both units are shown. This useful digital router can handle 12 channels of spdif or adat optical digital io with. If you are installing your pro toolshd system for the first time, see the pro toolshd user guide. While cables may not be the sexiest part of your setup, understanding how they work and what to look for when shopping will eliminate hassles and ensure you get the best possible sound. When a patchcord is inserted to the top jack, it pushes one of the contacts aside, breaks the connection to that normalled input, and the output can be routed elsewhere. Steinberg midex 8 8 in\8 out usb midi bay steinberg vsl2020 32 channel adat lightpipe pci sound card w\midi io and spidif behringer ultragain pro 8 adat pre 16 channes 8 in 8 out behringer power play pro xl 4 out headphone amp behringer ultra patch pro 24 channel patchbay behringer truth b2031a reference monitors. The signal from the source device, at the top jack, flows through to the jack directly below, to a destination.
Our studio homelab rack, rails, patch panel, cables and parts setup. Within pro tools, the adat protocol and optical source because adat is optical are the way to go. Adat light pipe uses toslink optical cables, the same cable as optical spdif. Patchbay setup i have purchased behringer px3000 and i dont really understand how to set it up. The connectors are usually 14 inch 2circuit or 3circuit jacks. Interesting silverface advantage over the new blackface. The firestudio lightpipe allows you to convert up to 32 channels of adat optical light pipe inputoutput to. Your headphones are probably best served off the patch bay so you can just take two cables out of a patchbay output from the maudio and plug them in those jacks and then. I would like to run this directly into sonar via a pcie card, but have been unable to find one which does not break the bank. Good studio design means having your normal setup routed through the back of the patchbay, and when you wish to change the signal flow or try something different, you simply.
However, ua has included an adat lightpipe input connector on the apollo twin enabling the user to increase it by up to 8 extra inputs. If the optical connection is an adat signal, it can carry not two but eightchannels of audio at 44. Control24 control24 control24 control24 control24 control24 control24 control24 kurzweil pcm pcm vocal microphones are connected to 9098 m. Many modern usb and firewire audio interfaces, including the focusrite saffire shown here, feature adat inputs and outputs. Ive been through two different sets of adat cables now and im getting noise glitches from each. A mixer is nice and i used to say a studio is not a studio until you have one but now with my patch bay samson s patch pro which i love plus a good software line mixer rmes total mix in my case it was the mixer that became redundant the patch bay is much much more flexible for me. Firestudio lightpipe now shipping press releases presonus. We have set up a separate members only forum area to discuss everything related to the coronavirus covid19. This is usually done in the interfaces control panel software. Hosa pdr369 is a patch bay providing 12 channels of balanced audio throughput.
If i want to use hardware effects units i have to patch them in through my patch bay. This useful digital router can handle 12 channels of spdif or adat optical digital io. Plus, tips on building and fitting racks for your gear. These patch bays use the highest quality frame type jacks with adcs crossbar selfcleaning jacks. Hosa technologies just came out with a physical lightpipe patchbay that might do the trick.
The sync data is part of the data passed in the adat connection. This simple setup shows patchbay channels 1 and 24 in use. Your source for audio patchbays from top brands like switchcraft, tecnec, neutrik and canare. One set was particularly bad, noise noise noise, another set i would get a pop on all 8 channels on the h8000fw every few minutes or so. The presonus firestudio lightpipe is a 24bit96k adat light pipe to firewire computer recording system for both pc and macintosh computer systems. Why you need the lynx ls adat 16 channel lightpipe expansion card. If your interface has an adat optical input, you can add an additional eight channels of inputs into your system with something like a presonus digimax. The only real difference between the simplified diagram and your setup is that the number on each channel strip in the diagram will be different from the channel number on your mixer. But the patchbay itself will generate even more cables. Each of the outlets in the rig is hardwired back to a central patch bay that provides a flyinglead system located next to the dimmers. Using the guide above, you may be able to vastly simplify and understand the complexities of a patchbay much better. In this free tutorial, we are going to show you how to set up adat lightpipe input to expand the channels on the universal audio apollo twin. If youre here reading this, it may be the case that you already have access to a bay. If a customized patch bay is not an option, these prewired patch bays are a great choice.
A halfnormal patchbay configuration is commonly used with analog line level signals. Adat carries digital information in a completely different format from aes3 but. Depending on the show, the lights required can be chosen from the patch bay and plugged into the dimmer offering extra flexibility. Weve posted hundreds of videos explaining the features of our products and how to get the most from them. It has a few names, but many audio interfaces include a digital connection called adat or lightpipe. Buy best digital patchbays online from pro audio solutions in nashville, usa.
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